"two men born of the Hantei family claimed the throne." So Toturi and Shoju were Hantei? Or who else is this meant to refer to? --Gen.d 09:25, 25 Oct 2005 (UTC)

It says two men not born of the Hantei line... --Majushi 12:34, 25 Oct 2005 (EDT)

Didn't Ambition get broken after the throne, not at the same time? I lost my copy of the novel but I recall that after the throne was broken he wedged it between two pieces and broke it on purpose. 04:19, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Ambition was broken when he cleaved it into the throne, splitting the throne in two... i think... --Majushi 08:57, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I have a question concerning Akodo Toturi's fate. If I remember correctly the Akodo family was disbanded because Toturi objected the disbanding of the Scorpion clan, claiming that a whole clan cannot be punished for a single man's crime. The young emperor took this as an offense and punished Akodo Toturi in return. Correct me if I am wrong. --Neonsamurai 10:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I think you are correct yes. Hantei XXXIX also had an issue with Toturi claiming the throne i believe... That Toturi should have made more of an effort to make sure the heir was dead... But the objection to the disbanding of the Scorpion was what pushed it over the edge i believe... --Majushi 11:18, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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