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Hiruma Yoshi was Hiruma Kage's father and retired from the position. Did he come out of retirement after the death of his son? Mobyfoo do you have any referances for the details, just wondering so it is less confusing... --Majushi 22:24, 03 Sep 2005 (EDT)

In the flavor text for the Hiruma Yoshi ancestor, it refers to Yoshi returning from retirement after Kage's death to lead the Hiruma in the reclamation of Shiro Hiruma alongside the Hida and Naga, or "leave the Hiruma in the hands of a fool." What this quote means, I have no idea, as it is referenced nowhere else. He died a few months later in the defense of Shiro Hiruma. See Secrets of the Crab, page 42.
Thanks, and just wondering about the other two after him, Hiruma Zunguri and Hiruma Nikako, it says in Hiruma Masagaro's text that "Hiruma Masagaro was the first Hiruma daimyo to never know the shame of having lost lands to Fu Leng." but if Hiruma Castle was recaptured in 1130 then Zunguri would be the first... just wondering if there is any more information in Secrets of the Crab regarding the two daimyo before Masagaro... (Just curious for my own sake...) --Majushi 21:05, 05 Sep 2005 (EDT)
But Zunguri would have known the shame at the beginning of his tenure as daimyo, as it wasn't final until 1132. Masagaro was the first (well, first in centuries) to not know it at all. --WestonWyse 01:08, 6 Sep 2005 (UTC)
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